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Recovering from long singing hiatus...

ronhughesronhughes Posts: 6Pro, 2.0 PRO
Hi,  I just joined KTVA after trying to recover my voice after about a 3-5 year period of little to no singing.  I've been doing lip rolls and tongue trill exercises and my chords seem fine, but when I go to open any Ah or A sound, my throat muscles tighten up and gag me.  It's better when I massage my neck and warm up for a long time, but I'm getting a little discouraged by the lack of progress over the past year.  I've been scoped by an ENT and there are zero issues internally.  I may be trying to push too hard too soon and getting frustrated by not being able to do what I used to do for 20 years.  I also get hoarse after about 5 minutes of open throat singing.  Do you have any advice or exercise recommendations maybe?
Thanks,
Ron

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  • jrejre Posts: 98
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    @ronhughes‌ I would like to add that I think each and every one us here has met with frustration along the way. There's lots of things that can cause horseness and vocal stops and most are moving targets that can be managed. These techniques when used properly will get you through. I also think its worth checking out Ken's video on health and wellness(allergies) just for overall health tips. At least for me I had frustrating loss of head voice last month and Ken's tips have helped me very much as I have regained my full range. Good singing to you.

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  • ronhughesronhughes Posts: 6Pro, 2.0 PRO
    Thanks Bob.
    How do I post a video?  Post it to YouTube and put the link in my forum message?
    ~Ron
  • ronhughesronhughes Posts: 6Pro, 2.0 PRO
    edited December 2014
    Thanks @PhilMoufarrege. I really appreciate all the tips. Most of the exercises in Volume 1 I have been doing for the past year, but I've had to close down the Ahh sound to more of a Ehh to keep my neck muscles from twerking. :) I think I've been blowing it by trying to belt out like I used to and not being patient. I've given up several times and chalking it up to "turning 50." But I'm only a few weeks younger than Ken, and have you heard HIM? I'm gonna work consistently for the next month and see how my progress goes. Again, thanks for the input. I wish I'd had this program 30 years ago!
  • ronhughesronhughes Posts: 6Pro, 2.0 PRO
    So, I've been faithfully doing the V.1 exercises daily, but got derailed this last week by a chest cold.  I'll ease back in after the airways clear. 
    I did a remix of a song I recorede once-upon-a-time that shows what my voice was like up until about 3 years ago, when I just sort of stopped singing.  I've listened to my singing and have been trying to identify what I'm doing mechanically.  It sounds to me like I've developed my chest voice pretty high up the register, then I mix chest and head (a lot), and use supported head voice on the high stuff.  I'd really like to know what you think if you have time to listen.  Thanks, Ron.

  • highmtnhighmtn Posts: 14,574Administrator, Moderator, Enrolled, Pro

    Ron,

    You certainly had a good range.  I heard D5's and an E5 in there. 

    After you get well, let's see what you sound like on some basic exercises and see how you're doing now.

    All the Best!

    Bob

  • ronhughesronhughes Posts: 6Pro, 2.0 PRO
    Hi Bob,
    I've been consistently doing V1 exercises 5 days a week for the past 8 months, and I'm finally able to move past lip brrs and tongue exercises to do the open LAH parts, but it's pretty awful. I don't know if I want to post a video of where I'm at, but even with finally seeing progress, I still can't actually sing a song that goes above my "break."
    I'm becoming more convinced that there's a mechanical problem, but my ENT says there are no nodes. If there is a mechanical problem, I'm ready to hang it up, but I've been singing all my life and can't imagine quitting.
    If you read my previous posts, you can see that this is a recurring theme.
    I'm way past discouraged, and open to suggestions.
    ~Ron
  • highmtnhighmtn Posts: 14,574Administrator, Moderator, Enrolled, Pro
    Hi, Ron.

    I'm sorry you're still having problems. I don't think we've seen or heard a demo of you doing the LAH vowel. That's the gold standard and tells us what you're doing. A video would be best.

    We haven't had a chance to help you yet, because you haven't submitted a LAH scale to get started. I'm not sure why you would be having trouble with anything beyond a lip trill and tongue exercise. That just doesn't add up right. Your voice sounded so good in your old demo.

    Give us a chance to try to see what's happening. The Lah scales will let us hear how you are using your voice. We can go from there.

    It's not time to hang it up yet. It's time to rebuild your voice.

    Let's do it.

    Good Singing to You!

    Bob
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