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Didn't know you had a place for this!
One country: http://youtu.be/7jXmOS4-ceY
One rock: http://youtu.be/7kqGqCw3HnU
This is good stuff! I like it!!
Way to go, Esa!
That song "I Believe in a Thing Called Love" is really funny. I've never heard it before, but I YouTubed it, and you're actually pretty close, especially for a lark!
You have a very interesting voice. You certainly have the range and tone... with a little more discipline, you would be dangerous! I can see what you mean about not having a passagio break in your voice. You artfully shed the weight as you ascend.
The fm radio sound seems to be from having the mic up so loud that it's picking up the room noise like the hiss of an FM broadcast. That's probably why the A4 made my ears bleed ;^) The mic must still be smoking...
Then there's the E5 in Stairway... Mercy! Was that with the Sennheizer? You weren't kidding when you said you have a very loud voice.
I like the quality of your voice. Lots of potential, lots of power. Discipline, my son... You must learn to control the force!
Thanks for posting. It takes a lot of guts to post vocal demos on a vocalists' forum.
Wow... Big Improvement over the time you have been practicing.
Very brave to put your voice on without the backing music track... a lot of the demos people put on here it's very hard to hear their voice over the background music or the original artist's voice. No problem picking your voice out of the mix! ;^) It would be nice to hear some of the backing musical tracks, though...
Your voice has grown a lot since the previous demo was made. Keep practicing. It's working.
I like the two songs that have working links here. The Superstar tune is the best you've posted, so far.
The link to Brandy doesn't get you to the song, just an error code:
Thanks for giving us a fix for the link to Brandy.
You DO seem to have some baratonic ring in this tune. Again, I must say I like the qualities of your voice. I do see an opportunity for some improvement with regard to timing and being in maybe a little better sync with the backing tracks. You can fix that after the fact with most audio editing software. I'm a drummer. Things like that make me crazy ;^)
The greatest opportunity for timing improvement is in the beginning verse. You tighten your rhythm up a little as the song progresses. Your altoic ring in the bridge is my favorite part. You bring it all home at the turnaround of the bridge back into the last verse through to the hooks at the end.
Bluedevils - Very good band, great sound for a live performance! Mix-wise, I would have liked to have heard your lead vocals a little more, the backing vocals and music covered you up a little too much. That said, your pitch is right on the money, and you are singing with power. From your statement that you went in 10 months from untrained karaoke singer and then started KTVA, I expect that you have most likely improved over that ten months, and if you continue to do the exercises, your voice and range will continue to grow and strengthen far beyond your present abilities. That means we have a lot to look forward to from you in the future!
I hope that your band stays together, and that this was not just a one-time reunion. You're very good. The lead guitar solo was just Blistering!
eternal_man, I tried to listen to your clip, but putlocker wouldn't let me in, and kept redirecting my computer to "hot chicks" kinds of sites. Not exactly what I was expecting. See if you can get that fixed, and we would be happy to take a listen. Just don't need all those "hot babes" (named fred) wanting to webcam, hacking into my computer.
I tried downloading dropbox and opening an account with them. Still can't seem to get to your files. It may be ME that is the problem, and not anything you've done. One of the easiest sites people here seem to be using is soundcloud. I think that's where I would post.
Sorry if the problem is me.
rayven, yes, I agree with ronws, you are da man! You guys need to pick up the tempo a little bit, though...;^) just kidding... very energetic! Thanks for getting this posted on a link that works. It was worth the wait.
Your band kicks arse, and your vocals are just right in my opinion. I would ask if your voice is lasting without going hoarse, because you have a lot of grit in your vocal sound... So you must be doing it right if that's not killing your vocal cords. Good intonation, good distortion, lots of energy... good recording...
I don't think anyone is posting too much on this thread. This is just starting to get interesting with all of the samples going up for comment. That's what we're all here for. To listen, to learn, to coach, to encourage, and to ask for or give help or opinions.
Keep it coming.
ronws, I just listened to your link of Land Down Under.
I liked the first verse. I think it sounded quite good. You don't give your low end enough credit!
You excel, of course, when you go to your higher range, as your "Power Band" is in this upper midrange that most of us struggle to achieve...
I like this tune the most of what you've posted so far. Your intonation is consistent, as well as the vocal timing, where that has been something that has needed attention on your previous posts. As I've said all along, I like your voice a lot, and this one is getting much closer to the more perfected product that I think you are quite capable of.
To this post I must say BRAVO!!!!
Thanks for posting your latest demo. You do a decent job on that song. In my opinion you beat yourself up a little too much for the quality of your voice in your lower registers. I must agree that you excel more when you get more up into the tenor notes, but then you ARE a tenor, so that's to be expected.
I believe that I am most likely a dramatic tenor, so that puts me just a half-step flat of where you are. I do, however, have a reasonable low end, which can be emphasized by low larynx, extended lips, breath control, and placement (not to mention practice).
It would probably be more difficult for me to sing low if a vocal authority had told me that I had no baritonic ring, especially if they had said it flippantly. I was once nearly voted out of a church musical vocal group for having too "reedy-sounding" of a voice. This is the very sound that Ken Tamplin uses in his "It's the LAW" demo. Not long after the church nearly voted me out, I was hired as a singing drummer by a local band and I've sung professionally two or three nights a week for almost five years now.
Different strokes for different folks. I just think that we ALL should be on a path, our own path, for self-improvement and self-fulfillment, from where we are now to where we want to be.
I hear many good qualities in your voice, and I hear much wisdom in your technical expertise on vocal terminology. I've heard very few posters here, other than yourself, making references to formants, vocal fachs, classical vocal references... I like your technical perspective.
I'm probably the same age as you, if not older, and I work a similar industrial supervisory job that tries to suck the life out of me... but singing breathes life INTO me.
So are you working out with vocal exercises to build up the areas you feel weak in? I'm wondering if you may be a good vocalist that sings but does not "work out" actively? The only reason I say that is because you have made a comment or two about being where you are, as if there is no expectation of improvement for you... maybe because you're too old? I have to tell you, I'm "old", I work out a lot, and I'm on a steady roll of improvement.
The plateaus for us all sometimes seem endless, but then boom, you find yourself turning a corner when you continue to strive. It's like watching a clock. It seems like it's not moving, but if you quit staring at it, when you come back it has moved.
With your level of talent, I am certain that if you are working out regularly, your areas of weakness will strengthen. Even us old guys can learn new tricks. Yes, I was around when Uriah Heep was new stuff. Some aging hippies are singing in rock and roll bands, and some are singing around campfires. Whatever makes you happy. It's all good.
For me, singing is in my heart. It makes me happy. It makes me even happier when I find myself growing vocally.
Keep posting, keep singing, keep practicing whatever makes you stronger, and keep growing vocally.
My best to you, ronws.
Sorry about the multiple copies of the one post from me above... The forum just locked up when I clicked on "Post Comment" and stayed frozen until I rebooted my computer. Now there doesn't seem to be a "delete post" function available anymore, so I can't clean up the mess. My "whew" post was an attempt to delete a double post. I edited out all of the text and replaced it with "whew". That cut it down to a single post.
I came back later tonight, to find four more copies of the original post. Not sure what that's about, but it would be nice if I could just access a delete post function, and make the duplicates go away...
First off (no offense) but even Bono's lo end is really tentative. It almost always sounds like he is a donky on the edge of pitch and control.
It's actually his passion and conviction that sells his voice.
You can clearly hear you "pinching" as you start to go up in your mid register.
Try to relax and open the throat even more.
Also: You can hear the larynx raise mid way through the chorus. especially on the word "you".
Try singing the whole chorus with open throat all vowel phrases first and then integrate other "mdified" vowel sounds so you can maintain open throat phrases. This will help you.
Also, 3/4's of the way into the chorus you can hear you support starting to fatigue and I can almost see your digastric muscle come down as you are negotiating the words.
If necessary, break this whole thing down first a line at a time so you don't build bad habits.
This will help you when you build the stamina to sing choruses like this over time.
I'm 45 and don't really sing, but I've always wanted to be able to sing just for my own personal satisfaction. Got the program on May 13th and started practicing in my car to and from work (only time I have right now) started to notice a difference so I downloaded "Faithfully" sound track and recorded a little bit on June 4th (up thru "along the wire"). Kept practicing in the car, then things seemed to start getting easier so I recorded another section of the song on June 22nd using the same USB mic on my computer, but I held a paper towel in front of the mic to cut down on the "pop".
I plan to keep recording new parts of the song every few weeks as I progress so that hopefully I can hit the high parts at the end of the song when I'm done. When I'm finished, I'll hopefully be able to hear steady progress as I play through the entire song.
Still a long way to go, but I'm excited to continue on with the program
You're sounding really good for trying to sing for being just six weeks into the program with no real background in singing! I think this recording is going to sound pretty good by the time you get to the end.
Just a little constructive criticism: Those high notes that come at the end of the lines... drop down on those high notes, don't reach up for them. Give them a little more breath support and push down on your innards to nail those high notes. You do so later in the song and it sounds really good when you have the support. I like the sound of your voice.
Keep up the good work!
Wow 6 weeks and your 45. I really like your tone.
You are really starting to understand support, pitch and the stamina / technique required to sing a song like this. (I like the Latin approach on guitar, wish I heard even a little more of tha :-t).
Now if I could encourage you to balance a little more of open throat with mask. You are relying almost totally on mask must at several points I'd like to hear more warmth in the sound.
Before you atttempt this, stay with the way you are singing the song currently and develop longer more legato phrases as you cut them short. You may be doing this for a "style" think which I understand but now it time to build the upper mid voice even more and doing this will really help.
Once you have done that, then take into consideration about what I saw "warming" up the sounds.
If necessary, you can stay with the exact way you are approaching the higher notes, but now in the mid and lower registers balance out the warm form mask by shooting the sound up into the head rather than bringing it down so much into the front of the face.
I know this is easier for you for now, but in the long run, what I am asking you to do will not only give you more body, power and less shrill and eventually more range becuase you will introduce mask "later / higher" than you are right now.
Your phone recording is hard to review, due to the imbalance of the backing track relative to the level of your vocals, in addition to the complexities of the melodies. Without a good dose of the backing music it is hard to judge your vocal accuracy, and the melody being both hard to latch on to and also unfamiliar to me gives me little frame of reference to form an evaluation.
I found a Laura Marling video of Crawled Out of the Sea and listened to it. You are doing a fairly accurate job of nailing that melody, although until I heard it once from the original recording, it was hard for me to evaluate your voice. Yes, my problem is more with my own point of reference than with your performance.
Cudos for tackling something more sophisticated than a sing-song hum-drum tune, and for your bravery in posting it for all the world to critique.
At a couple of places it sounded like maybe your pitch was tentative, but probably due to the difficulty of singing with support while trying to stay in time and pitch with a cell phone. I thought that maybe it was a bit breathy and could use just a little more cord closure, but that may just be a stylistic choice, and a matter of taste.
I like the sound of your voice and would like to hear more. Post more, please. Sing on.