I understand what you are saying. I have been on the course for about a year and have the pro packs. I have only been through 2 of the 5 volumes and not even watched all the extras yet. It is absolutely massive! The student areas of the forum are worth the cost of the course all over again. Its very active and very helpful for understanding what he talks about in the course. It's all about developing your voice and there is great detail on how to do the exercises and why. Yes it's alot of talking but there is much to learn and there are exercises dedicated to each volume. It's about the tools to sing, not spending all your time just singing. I'm personally amazed at my progress after a year. Hope this clarifies for you. Oh and I'm unsure about the money back aspect of it.
His instructional videos in the course are more to the point. It may seems as if he's telling you a little too much to digest at first, but there is good reason for that. And even more so, everybody moves at their own pace. The new 2.0 course is structured much better, and it has a nice pace. However, if you did not get everything Ken said, just watch the video again. All the info in each video is very important, because he will be building upon the foundation you make in VOL1 when you go to VOL2, 3 etc.
So like @Wigs said, there is a lot of talking, but less off-topic. And he shows everything he talks about. He doesn't just tell you what to do, he demonstrates it.
The course is very structured and you can't compare it to the free content on YouTube. That content is great, but the course provides a path to follow, where you can go along with Ken and learn everything you need to know in small steps. It's very expansive, and as i said, structured. That's what you pay for.
Just adding, most of the things he talks about are mainly when he's trying to simplify things or describe feelings. He comes up with lots of analogies to help various different people related to various sensations.
There is always an element of personal motivation and it is easy if you "think you know it" to skip over things but don't. I've had both the 1.0 and 2.0 courses (just bought a week ago) and the 2.0 course is so more structured that previous ones and I highly recommend. I've always had good pitch but in a week, dedicating 1 hour every day, I've come very far and the people in this community are absolutely gold who have experiences all the same issues.
It's the best investment in yourself you will ever make. If you get the course, and see a post like this, you will be one of the ones testifying to how it has grown your voice like you never thought possible. Obviously Ken is not going to pour out the contents of his course for free on YouTube. He is demonstrating with his own voice and with his students' voices how well his techniques work.
Every day you delay getting the actual course is one more day that you have not begun the journey that will change your vocal life. I waited about a year, with the same doubts you have. I lost that year of learning time. That was in 2011, and my voice is still getting better every year.
Ken is a really entertaining guy and people love him on YouTube for that. You will be blown away when you see how much information on how to sing is in the course, and how effective the exercises are. You won't really know for sure until you try.
Hello.. As an older student of Ken's I have only recently begun with his training, and in response to the originator of this post, I can only say, I mean no disrespect to you or anyone else here, but here's the thing about what I have seen so far. Ken has a lot to say, yes, but it's his passion that drives it and his desire to be absolutely clear on the finer details of his teaching. THAT is the key. It's easy to think, "Come on, come on, get to the exercise", or "get to this or that", BUT, IF you listen carefully with FOCUS you will see that you NEED what he is saying even if not all of it is immediately clear, to fully grasp the finer elements of those techniques, etc. I watch a video multiple times and may even go back as a refresher, and sure you have to listen to the same thing, but again, open your mind and think of what he is really saying and TRY this stuff out. I'm telling you, it will improve your practice and save you a lot of wasted time and grief. Short of being present in the same room with Ken, it's about as much attention to detail as you can expect.
Here's the other thing. What YOU put in, is equally important. I literally have a notebook I keep and which is full of notes and pasted pictures of my research and study, "on MY own time" to understand the vocal apparatus, and bio-mechanical function of same". I can't tell you how much that adds to understanding and connecting to what Mr. Tamplin is trying to convey. THAT, alone makes a huge difference in connecting to what you feel in the throat and learning how to shape the vocal tract when you understand precisely what is occurring inside. THAT in depth knowledge is the second best thing to actually having a camera down your throat. I've seen a lot of improvement and I'm not out of volume ONE. I'm not sure I want to be just yet.
@originalvonster Another point if you join the course make sure to take your time on volume 1 especially it's the solid foundation you need to get right prior to moving the next volume.
Go for it's top tuition at a very reasonable price!!
It is the best course ever, I have been singing for years with wrong technics and took lots of vocal courses. After finding Ken’s course it made me understand everything about good technics. I dont even sing in English but it doenst matter which language you sing in, Ken’s course helps you alot. Thanke Ken
Hi , I've just started myself so only in Volume 1 out of 5 (each volume takes a long time, months or years to complete so I gather), so I've only got time in Volume 1 so far. Ken's lesson videos where he is explaining each new subject are really great, he makes a difficult subject like singing sort of personable and easy going to understand and put in practice, and it's pretty conversational but I think that's a positive. There's a lot of information to digest for me and I'm the type of person who likes to get something and go running full steam with it but it doesn't work in singing there's a lot of technique to learn to get a good sound, keep progressing and avoid all injury. I had a bad technique before hand (which I'm still working on doing right of course and not there yet) but doing the scales the way it's taught here removed all my hoarseness almost over night. I highly recommend the course, peace!
the course is much more straight forward than the YT videos. in fact, I find it very well-organized. You have instructional videos, and then "playbacks" for the daily workouts. none of them are as "unstructured" (no offense) as the YT videos, i.e. you won't need to skip to the exercise parts, like on YT. I recommend that you skip to the scales in the free videos and do a routine with them first prior to committing to the course. After a few days of the free videos, I knew exactly where the scales were (it also helps to use the preview-hover-over on the YT timeline, whenever Ken plays the guitar, you know it's on). I did the free stuff for a while and noticed great improvements, and then figured it would be a waste of time to not get the course. You will need discipline to do the daily routines, and it might be hard to incorporate them into a busy day, so you should definitely test it first. I am pretty sure you will be as convinced as I was, once you have tried it for a few weeks. I think it took me less than 3 weeks before I pulled the trigger
@originalvonster the coursework videos are that, not like Ken’s YouTube videos in the respect he will explain in more detail and guide you through as learn and apply the techniques. He does on occasion briefly mention experiences, it’s relevant to what he’s teaching and it’s important on the 1st part of the course you take your time.
The next stage will be to apply what you have learned into audio workouts, don’t want to elaborate too much but hopefully answered you question.
I have devised this routine myself and am not saying this is the only way to go, just so that you have an idea of what I did, maybe you will find it helpful
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So like @Wigs said, there is a lot of talking, but less off-topic. And he shows everything he talks about. He doesn't just tell you what to do, he demonstrates it.
The course is very structured and you can't compare it to the free content on YouTube. That content is great, but the course provides a path to follow, where you can go along with Ken and learn everything you need to know in small steps. It's very expansive, and as i said, structured. That's what you pay for.
All the best,
Ben
There is always an element of personal motivation and it is easy if you "think you know it" to skip over things but don't. I've had both the 1.0 and 2.0 courses (just bought a week ago) and the 2.0 course is so more structured that previous ones and I highly recommend. I've always had good pitch but in a week, dedicating 1 hour every day, I've come very far and the people in this community are absolutely gold who have experiences all the same issues.
Danny
Every day you delay getting the actual course is one more day that you have not begun the journey that will change your vocal life. I waited about a year, with the same doubts you have. I lost that year of learning time. That was in 2011, and my voice is still getting better every year.
Ken is a really entertaining guy and people love him on YouTube for that. You will be blown away when you see how much information on how to sing is in the course, and how effective the exercises are. You won't really know for sure until you try.
Bob
Here's the other thing. What YOU put in, is equally important. I literally have a notebook I keep and which is full of notes and pasted pictures of my research and study, "on MY own time" to understand the vocal apparatus, and bio-mechanical function of same". I can't tell you how much that adds to understanding and connecting to what Mr. Tamplin is trying to convey. THAT, alone makes a huge difference in connecting to what you feel in the throat and learning how to shape the vocal tract when you understand precisely what is occurring inside. THAT in depth knowledge is the second best thing to actually having a camera down your throat. I've seen a lot of improvement and I'm not out of volume ONE. I'm not sure I want to be just yet.
Go for it's top tuition at a very reasonable price!!
Vocality
The next stage will be to apply what you have learned into audio workouts, don’t want to elaborate too much but hopefully answered you question.
Good luck you won’t regret it if you join.
Vocality
https://forum.kentamplinvocalacademy.com/discussion/comment/49761#
you need to scroll down a bit
I have devised this routine myself and am not saying this is the only way to go, just so that you have an idea of what I did, maybe you will find it helpful