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How To Shout Higher Pitch?

Hey all, how do I hit the higher notes? I am very into voice acting, and don't know how to get the higher notes.

I can sing opera very well, but it's stopping me by not having that kind of nazelly sound, and the screeching wheels type of effect! I also find it very difficult to use my throat, I don't know why.

I don't have any kind of infection or anything, it just seems very fatigued for a few years.

Any ideas?

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  • RandyBRandyB 2.0 PRO Posts: 357
    @virgilcrumb123 I’m sorry you’re having difficulty with this aspect of your voice. To understand how to best help you, I’d like to ask a few clarifying questions. You mentioned you “sing opera very well”; do you, or have you studied Bel Canto? You also mention not having a nasally sound and a “screeching wheels type effect”. Is this a reference to the bright, “pingy” tone Ken mentions as being the only one that will grow the voice? Please also expand on what you mean by “use my throat” as that phrasing is rather ambiguous. Lastly, I find it concerning that your voice has felt “very fatigued for a few years”. Can you better explain the fatigue you’re experiencing; what are the symptoms of this fatigue? The issue you’re having may stem from using your voice improperly and possibly without adequate rest. And if these issues have persisted for years, you may need the expertise of an otolaryngologist. I am tagging Marco @doc_ramadani. He is a moderator on this forum and a medical doctor. I would still encourage you to answer the questions I asked to ensure you’re receiving an adequate response from him or anyone else who wishes to chime in.

    Regards,
    Randy
  • virgilcrumb123virgilcrumb123 Member Posts: 5
    RandyB said:

    @virgilcrumb123 I’m sorry you’re having difficulty with this aspect of your voice. To understand how to best help you, I’d like to ask a few clarifying questions. You mentioned you “sing opera very well”; do you, or have you studied Bel Canto? You also mention not having a nasally sound and a “screeching wheels type effect”. Is this a reference to the bright, “pingy” tone Ken mentions as being the only one that will grow the voice? Please also expand on what you mean by “use my throat” as that phrasing is rather ambiguous. Lastly, I find it concerning that your voice has felt “very fatigued for a few years”. Can you better explain the fatigue you’re experiencing; what are the symptoms of this fatigue? The issue you’re having may stem from using your voice improperly and possibly without adequate rest. And if these issues have persisted for years, you may need the expertise of an otolaryngologist. I am tagging Marco @doc_ramadani. He is a moderator on this forum and a medical doctor. I would still encourage you to answer the questions I asked to ensure you’re receiving an adequate response from him or anyone else who wishes to chime in.

    Regards,
    Randy

    Okay, no problem! Any help is appreciated.

    I can oscillate my voice, but I don't have a specific name of a person I've studied. I never went to school for it, I went to school for Computer Science :D.

    Sort of a "Ho-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh", I know about Andreo Bocelli, Luciano Pavarotti and some others. It's like a frog thing at the back of the throat, it feels kind of cushioney and I use that trick of whistle up and down like Pavarotti used to, high low high low high low until you merge them into one oscillating sound!

    And no other real symptoms of the fatigue, I have inner chest muscle tightness is all, and in the area around the underpit tendon that connects to the shoulder! I do have some understanding of what some of the singers I've heard chat about, pulling the voice from the center of gravity, key referring to a subset of pitches in an instrument, and I know the idea of the drum 3x verse, transition, 3x 3x 3x transition, etc.

    My dad used to have a lot of fun using his voice growing up (and I would ask him if he weren't busy at the time), and could hit like a highest note possible with the vocal chord cylinders moving closer together: [][], and we all have pretty deep voices (when the chords move apart I believe). I use that kermit the frog technique where you say kind of a "uh" sound between the H & Y in "why", etc. It's like an old american cowboy trick in Utah/Nevada! "Oh kahhhmannn mahhn" type of thing (not sure if it's of relevance haha). I know Tarzan breaths that way too!

    I am able to hit a higher note slowly throughout the last year, but it still sounds too kermit-like and like a trumpet. Not like a clean clear flute?

    If that explains it...here is a video too:




    5:22! (dark movie, watch at own risk :D)




    And this one at 1:54, but it's not the highest key pitch I think!
  • RandyBRandyB 2.0 PRO Posts: 357
    @virgilcrumb123 I’m afraid your explanation has left me more confused. And I’m not certain I understand the relevance of the videos. Are you saying you want to be able to scream like they do at those time-stamps?
  • virgilcrumb123virgilcrumb123 Member Posts: 5
    RandyB said:

    @virgilcrumb123 I’m afraid your explanation has left me more confused. And I’m not certain I understand the relevance of the videos. Are you saying you want to be able to scream like they do at those time-stamps?

    Yes, I am! :D
  • RandyBRandyB 2.0 PRO Posts: 357
    @virgilcrumb123 Well...I guess to learn how to do those screams safely I would recommend following the exercises Ken has posted on YouTube. They will help you build your voice if you do them diligently and pay very close attention to Ken’s instructions. Screams, and especially screams with distortion, can be an extreme sport. I highly recommend you purchase the full KTVA course if you want to learn how to do this safely. And I’m still concerned that you’re reporting your voice has been fatigued for years. I feel it would be prudent to have your vocal situation analyzed by a medical professional before embarking on this journey. Best of luck!
  • virgilcrumb123virgilcrumb123 Member Posts: 5
    RandyB said:

    @virgilcrumb123 Well...I guess to learn how to do those screams safely I would recommend following the exercises Ken has posted on YouTube. They will help you build your voice if you do them diligently and pay very close attention to Ken’s instructions. Screams, and especially screams with distortion, can be an extreme sport. I highly recommend you purchase the full KTVA course if you want to learn how to do this safely. And I’m still concerned that you’re reporting your voice has been fatigued for years. I feel it would be prudent to have your vocal situation analyzed by a medical professional before embarking on this journey. Best of luck!

    Okay, it's not only that, I also just like to talk higher pitch. I find it's easier on the throat, and it sounds softer!

    And I will try to take a look at the exercises, does it delve into some kind of anatomical/physiological work? And don't worry, I should be perfectly fine in regards to medical health. I am very healthy otherwise. It's just a lot of stuff in school was all, I did a very heavy heavy route with a Bachelor's in Biology, Master's in Chemistry, and PHD in Computation sort of. It has my brain doing all kinds of weird stuff when I'm drifting off for a nap.

    I however have never visited a vocal doctor since I was 3 or 4, I used to scream a lot for fun (all in good fun), they said I had very good vocal chords. Ears Nose & Throat specialist was more so where the issues were, I do have a pseudo underbite jaw that they said will go away in age (it's not so much an underbite, but the upper jaw isn't growing it all since Grade 6; we do have an upper gum bone that's longitudinally grown called the Palate, there's no reason it wouldn't play a role in voice).

    Best way to put it actually, is one problem seems to be that I have all the chords built already, but I can't seem to USE them to get that kind of Tom Hanks sounding voice, that kind of Al Pacino/Tien higher pitched one, or even a more wider expansive sounding Mufasa one! It rumbles a lot, but it doesn't seem to use all the muscle in the throat at once! It's like they're just shut offline O.O.

    Hopefully I don't have to pay too much, right now I wasn't planning on directly purchasing, I was visiting a few different singing forums to see what anyone would say.

    Cheers, and thank you!
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