Bring back the 70's great rock.
Goldtaff
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Lol whilst being born in 1981 the only way my mother could get me to sleep was put music on and I was as happy as sand boy. I've loved music since then but got brought up on 70's music mostly and cowboy films lol. I love all the rock music and unlike today's pop bull industry I loved that era when song writers wrote there own music and got somewhere through blood sweat and tears. Through years of deadication and learning there game of mastery.
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Exhibit A:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8tK1rGpog
Oh, by the way, Welcome @Goldtaff. I see this is your first post. Nice to meet you!
Nice video of a talented present-day artist, @ragnar.
We all have our preferences, and it's OK. I guess it's when we say that we don't like something that maybe other people do like, that we may step on somebody's toes.
Speaking of lip-syncing and Aretha, did you hear about how much trouble she had filming her Think musical number for the Blues Brothers movie? She had a lot of trouble with that, because she only knew how to really sing... making her lips match a recording was troublesome for her.
Cream did not write all of their songs, and they were one of my favorites, and I still like to hear their recordings. I don't listen to Cream very often, but when I hear one of their tunes playing, I may stop what I'm doing and listen, because their style was very unique, and they were trendsetters even though their basis was in old blues roots. The Beatles wrote a TON of music, but started out doing covers. Zep did not write all of their tunes, either, and the list could go on.
Good songs are good songs, regardless of who wrote the song. How it is presented makes a difference. What is a "Good Song" to me may not be so hot in someone else's opinion. That's OK too. The world won't conform to my standards for some reason.
There are good artists from before the 70's and 80's and there are good artists now. In the present, we may hear more of the not-so-great, because time and memory have not yet filtered them out, and we may find them quite annoying in the present if we don't happen to care for them. I was quite troubled by the amount of disco in the late 70's. Now it's good for a lark. It was torture then.
Some of today's artists will still be popular or their songs will be played 45 or 50 years from now, like the Beatles, Stones, and others we could list. It's just a flash in the pan, if you use a more historical clock, but that is a long time in contemporary music. Many others will be forgotten by then, and some will look back on this golden age of creativity in the 2010's, the good old days... when music was good.
With over 5,000 subscribers to this forum, we may sometimes have varying tastes. That's OK.
Bob
@ragnar,
I saw Cream back in the day. The first time I saw them, I had never even heard of them. I went to see Vanilla Fudge and my friends told me I would like Cream, too. They were quite good. Then they played Toad, and my friends looked at me as if I knew what was coming. I didn't. Ginger started playing his solo, and I'm like, so what, I can do that... Fifteen minutes later, he's still building his solo, and I'm like, heh, heh, well, he is pretty good... I ended up modeling my playing after him, probably more than any other drummer. I also heard Jimi Hendrix a few times, and loved Mitch Mitchell's playing style on their recordings, but he never sounded that good to me live. Live, Mitchell's playing was always a mushy wash, and indistinct, unlike the recordings.
A lot of the bands I played in back then were playing tons of Cream and Hendrix covers. When Zeppelin came out, we were doing all of those long album cuts, as well. I saw Zeppelin live a few times. Plant had a hoarse voice each time I saw them and that was a disappointment, but Bonham always delivered. His solo wasn't as long and polyrhythmic as Baker's but it was still very impressive. Bonham also had a great feel and drive for solid backing of the Zeppelin machine when they would crank it up.
Cream was unique in the aspect that the drummer really set the music into a different type of drive from all of the other popular band's drummers. Baker's riffs all had a more tribal African feel to them. Baker spent some time in Africa studying tribal rhythms, so the story goes. In Cream, they were all three playing like madmen, yet very methodical. It was a synergy that had a life of its own.
I can't imagine Cream having the kind of power they had with anyone other than Ginger Baker in the middle of Jack Bruce and Eric Clapton's fusion. The three of those guys playing together were nothing short of awesome. None of them were replaceable.
Thanks for posting the video, @ragnar. I had to stop what I was doing and enjoy some really great music. I like what Ahmet Ertegun had to say at the very end.
Bob
I've heard that about Plant a lot unfortunately that he was more miss than hit in a live setting which is a shame. It seems like the vast majority of vocal gods from that era - and almost all eras really - do these crazy gymnastics in the studio and kill themselves on stage.
I mean being in my 20s now and previously only having heard Eric Clapton in the autumn of his career, I was really shocked to hear what a lovely bluesy voice he had back then. Bruce, may he rest in peace, seemed to have held on to his vocal ability much better though.
I actually remember hearing someone talking about how the blues - having had it's origins amongst the slaves of America - will have inevitably had a big basis in african tribal culture. I'm not sure if that's historically accurate or just an anecdote, but I wonder if someone like Baker would have thought the same.
@Goldtaff,
Back in the day, we were disappointed too when The Monkees and the Archies came out and a lot of people actually believed they were real bands. Then there was the Wrecking Crew, who played all of the musical tracks for bands like the Beach Boys, the Righteous Brothers, the Four Tops, Simon and Garfunkle, Sonny and Cher, and many more. They were a secret corps of very talented musicians who played all of the studio parts for hundreds of hits of the 60's and 70's. I actually have a lot of respect for Hal Blaine, the main drummer for the Wrecking Crew. I had no idea at the time that he was the drummer on so many songs I played to in cover bands. Likewise,Carol Kaye, one of the main bass players for the Wrecking Crew, came up with some of the greatest bass line grooves of an era that was loaded with hit records. We didn't know of the existence of the Wrecking Crew back then. We were listening to them every day.
@ragnar... At the time these concerts were happening, I too lived in a desolate area. They had no concerts in the state I lived in at that time. We would drive almost 200 miles to see concerts in Dallas, Texas. It was that or nothing. The only notable exception to that came when Jimi Hendrix played a concert in my home town, at the university basketball court. We sat on the floor, and at that concert, I was in the front row. The stage was just a riser about a foot or so off the ground. I was right in front of his microphone. Other times I saw him, we were much further away, in the Dallas coliseum, where most of the other shows I saw took place. The Vanilla Fudge/Cream Concert was in a smaller venue, the Texas State Fair Grounds auditorium. We were in the balcony there, but one of my friends got separated from us, and ended up sitting front-row-center, where they had a single seat
Bob
Got to agree with Ragner these stories and insights are really cool could listen to more be nice to hear all of your experiences
@Goldtaff, @ragnar,
Here are links to better images:
http://www.pictureandposter.com/jimi-hendrix-1968-14-x-22-concert-poster
Click on the poster to enlarge.
Here is an article on the wrecking crew. Click on the embedded audio file, which contains a montage of songs Hal Blaine was the drummer on. I recognize every one of them.
http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2012/04/20/musicians-wrecking-crew
More great Wrecking Crew stories:
http://www.jackaboutguitars.com/the-wrecking-crew-film
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=34093