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TammyBTammyB 2.0 PRO Posts: 17
Hi Everyone!

Tammy here.

Ever since I was a little girl, I wanted desperately to sing. But I was so bad at singing that even my 7th grade Chorus teacher wouldn't let me sing in the chorus. After college, I did some part-time DJ gigs that included assisting with a Karoake night. This required me to sing, so I picked easy songs (like...Captain & Tennille's remake of Shop Around!) and eventually became comfortable with this.

That gave me the guts to sing some back-up in my friend's garage band, and they quickly popped me to the front to sing some rock songs. I wasn't very good, but it was rock, I was a girl, and the outfits were cute, so no one seemed to care that I couldn't sing very well. I had no power, no vibrato, and was on pitch only about 90% of the time.

I eventually ended up singing with a hard-rock band for a couple of years. A few years after that band broke up I ventured into singing with an acoustic guitar player. It's hard to hide your voice with just an acoustic player, so I had to choose songs carefully and hope that nobody noticed how powerless and slightly off-tune my voice was. Somehow, we got gigs and I did that for about a year until my "career" took me away from the fun stuff. That experience was a good one for me, but it didn't put me on the map vocally.

Then I stopped singing. No Karaoke, no band, nothing acoustic. I figured I was awful anyway, so what was the point of trying to get back into it? So, I sang in my car, and the shower, and left it at that. But every time I saw a video clip of an old band I loved, or some YouTube singer (a good one), my eyes would well up with tears and I would think about that lost dream. I would watch other people singing and living their dreams, but I felt that I could never be like them.

As a side note, I *did* hire a few vocal coaches over the years, but they weren't very good. A couple of years ago, one of those nights that I was watching videos I stumbled upon an instructor online who claimed that he could help anyone find their vibrato. I ended up contacting one of his local instructors, and she actually *did* help. I became slightly hopeful! But then my work got in the way again, and I had to stop with the lessons. Plus, I had nowhere to sing anyway.

About a year ago I stumbled onto Ken's videos and was super inspired by them, but I had given up on my dream, so I didn't act on taking lessons. Again the sadness, but I just stuffed it down.

Last Friday night, I went (as a last minute decision) to see a concert. Something inside of me just won't let the rock-n-roll dream die. I cried on the way to the concert venue because it just felt so right to be with music. It was Tesla, Styx, and Joan Jett. I really went to see Tesla, but Styx was INCREDIBLE, and Joan Jett was pretty good too. I was SO inspired by singing along w/Tesla and Styx that I came home and looked for Ken again. I also called my old guitar player (from the rock band of YEARS ago), and said...Tim, I want to sing. Let's play. He was excited. He contacted his bass player and drummer. Their old female singer had to quit singing with them, so they have not been playing. NOW...the play list. OMG--- Ronnie James Dio...Rush...Judas Priest.. all of that stuff I used to sing. So, our first practice is coming in about a week, and I'm cramming to tune up my voice. Ken's videos have already helped, but I REALLY REALLY have a long journey. I just hope these guys will be forgiving while I get my voice to where it needs to be. I'll do everything I can to be my best. I also still want to sing the beautiful songs, so I'm going to look for an outlet for that too.

I'm super excited!!
I'll take all advice!!
Thanks Everyone.

Comments

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,111
    @TammyB You definitely came to the right place. If you follow the program as it's recommended, your voice will grow at a pace that will keep you wanting to learn more, and more.
    My best advice to you is to really try to understand the techniques. There is a lot to it, and may seem intimidating at first, but things come together quickly with this program. I still pinch myself to see if it's really me singing sometimes.

    The forum here is a huge plus. If you are having trouble understanding something, or stuck on a certain exercise, you can come here, and read up on the subject, watch a video or two on it, or post your concerns here, and you will get a reply fairly quick. Everybody here is respectful, and very helpful so take advantage of all the tools available in the program.

    I look forward to seeing you around. Happy singing!

    Peace, Tony
  • highmtnhighmtn Administrator, Moderator, Enrolled, Pro, 3.0 Streaming Posts: 15,320
    Tammy, you have come to the right place. Do understand that this process takes time, so some of your immediate needs may not be resolved for a while. The good news is that you are here, and you are starting out on what will be a journey of vocal growth that simply does not stop until you stop. As long as you keep working out on Ken's workouts, you will keep on growing. Sometimes it will seem like you have topped out, at a plateau... but then later, you catch yourself again doing something you could never do before. That just keeps on happening... FOR YEARS.

    So just get started, and keep going. You're here. That's a HUGE step. It's hard sometimes. But it just keeps getting better. You'll see, when you look back a year from now, two years from now. Phenomenal, life-changing improvement.

    Bob
  • TammyBTammyB 2.0 PRO Posts: 17
    Thanks guys....that is very helpful and hopeful. I'm good at being a beginner and starting over. I've done it with many other things. I'll be patient and keep plugging away at it. I REALLY appreciate your words of encouragement. :)
  • Gaston_JaureguiGaston_Jauregui Moderator, Enrolled, 2.0 PRO, 3.0 Streaming Posts: 1,004
    you are gonna have a great time!! welcome!
  • Furious_PhilFurious_Phil Moderator, Pro, 2.0 PRO, 3.0 Streaming Posts: 1,421
    @TammyB , what you wrote resonated very strongly... as I took about a 20 year hiatus from music to learn how to be a proper provider and father etc... you know, the grown up stuff :wink:

    When I entertained the notion of playing guitar again and singing, it was like a dam burst.
    I started rebuilding my gear, and got the basic KTVA package.
    My old band from the 90's somehow started back up, and I had maybe a month of KTVA training under my belt. It was initially hard to stay in the pocket and not resort to old habits, but over the months the new way became more ingrained and I could get through a rehearsal without going hoarse. Eventually my technique improved to the point where they stopped entertaining other singers to pop in to help take the load off me as the sole guitarist and singer. That happened at about volume 2. I then upgraded to Pro-level and continued the learning push... By the time I was well into Volume 4 we were gigging a bit, and pretty darned solid.

    So work the course, and try to bring it into each rehearsal, eventually it will all click if you work hard and are patient.

    The one really big piece of advice I can give you is to record your rehearsals. That way you can observe whether you are actually employing the KTVA principles properly or falling back into bad habits. Make sure to do performance notes that you can reference for the next rehearsal.
    It can be an amazing unbiased tool for growth if you let it!

    Cheers,

    Phillip
  • TammyBTammyB 2.0 PRO Posts: 17
    @Furious_Phil, Thanks so much and it does sound like our stories are similar. I know EXACTLY what you mean about old habits. As I'm rehearsing these songs, I keep catching myself doing old behaviors, and then I stop and say..Noooo...do it THIS way now. And then I go to the online piano, and plunk out the note progression of the song with "Lawwwww AH AH AH ahhh.. ah ahhhhh". :smiley:

    And, I'm changing the words to the songs.... instead of "wheel", I'm singing "whahhle" , etc!! cracking myself up. I'm redoing the vowel sounds as I go along. It's an adventure.

    I'm prepared for these rehearsals to be rough as I go in and out of fighting the old way, but I'm ready !!
    Thanks for that feedback!
  • TammyBTammyB 2.0 PRO Posts: 17
    @Furious_Phil, ... OH, and one other thing... I already upgraded to PRO. I realize I'm going to need it, and I'm totally committed to doing this.
  • Furious_PhilFurious_Phil Moderator, Pro, 2.0 PRO, 3.0 Streaming Posts: 1,421
    Outstanding! And for the record, I'm still rocking at 54, and singing better and more consistently than I did when I was 24!
    Age is just a number, until I forget to dye my hair for 6+ weeks, then it starts to show a little :wink:
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