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andrew_walkerandrew_walker Member Posts: 32
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Hi guys im andrew walker, i am new to singing but i was singing before but i was using my throat all the time so i always have strain, but now i am practicing the proper support there are times that i get it that almost my entire body was getting fatigue (is it alright??), but there are times that strain on my throat keeps on comming again ( is it the sign of my old habits? how can i get rid of it?? )
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  • HuduVuduHuduVudu 2.0 PRO Posts: 1,818
    Yes, you should feel the fatigue mostly in your body if you are doing it correctly.

    As to the strain on your throat is most likely coming from using to much air. To much air across the vocal chords causing them to dry which is likely what you are experiencing. To learn how to minimize this work on your lip burbles and focus on getting the air flow way down when doing it. This will help you learn to manage your breath correctly.
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  • doc_ramadanidoc_ramadani Administrator, 2.0 PRO, Facility Management Posts: 3,978
    Hi @andrew_walker,

    yes, singing is an extreme sport. During my first weeks I was drowning in sweat.

    Doc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3T-xA28fE
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  • andrew_walkerandrew_walker Member Posts: 32
    also brothers i also experience my body was trembling everytime im doing a scale
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  • highmtnhighmtn Administrator, Moderator, Enrolled, Pro, 3.0 Streaming Posts: 15,047
    You need to do your best to relax and keep your breath doing as shown in the video above. The even breath is key to keeping your voice from trembling.
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  • andrew_walkerandrew_walker Member Posts: 32
    Hello @highmtn what do you mean by even breath??
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  • highmtnhighmtn Administrator, Moderator, Enrolled, Pro, 3.0 Streaming Posts: 15,047
    I mean that the breath is even. Steady. Not wavering at all.
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  • andrew_walkerandrew_walker Member Posts: 32
    ahh okie thanks
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  • andrew_walkerandrew_walker Member Posts: 32
    Sir why sometimes i feel like i am straining my chords?? it feels like theres something getting rip off my cords, and it makes me taste some blood, how can i get rid of it??
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  • highmtnhighmtn Administrator, Moderator, Enrolled, Pro, 3.0 Streaming Posts: 15,047
    That should never happen. You might want to go see a doctor about that. You could be singing with far too much force.
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  • andrew_walkerandrew_walker Member Posts: 32
    but right now im doing ok now, theres no strain in the chords and i can do a scale, but i have another question, its about the vocal shaping what kind of sensation must i have??
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  • highmtnhighmtn Administrator, Moderator, Enrolled, Pro, 3.0 Streaming Posts: 15,047
    edited February 2019
    Andrew, Your home position is the AH vowel, like Ken teaches in so many of his YouTube Videos. Make the sound like he does.

    I think you may have been trying to sing too loudly if you ever feel pain or taste blood. Be careful to stay within safer limitations with your vocal volume.
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  • andrew_walkerandrew_walker Member Posts: 32
    you're right im trying to belt, but how can i know if what am i doing is right??
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  • andrew_walkerandrew_walker Member Posts: 32
    @highmtn how can i know the difference between the troat singing and diagpragmatic singing??
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  • highmtnhighmtn Administrator, Moderator, Enrolled, Pro, 3.0 Streaming Posts: 15,047
    Watch This Video, @andrew_walker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3T-xA28fE
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  • andrew_walkerandrew_walker Member Posts: 32
    Am I Doing Right?? I am Also Feeling some Strain on my chords
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=OvfKY8ul1Os
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  • HuduVuduHuduVudu 2.0 PRO Posts: 1,818
    edited May 2019
    Andrew, you are very tense when doing this and you also don't have any notes that you are trying to hit. Also I am unable to see you belly to determine if you are at least inhaling correctly.

    I would follow this video to build a good work out routine:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkXHQJc9L6s
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  • andrew_walkerandrew_walker Member Posts: 32
    mr @HuduVudu do you need to force the ah lah??
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  • HuduVuduHuduVudu 2.0 PRO Posts: 1,818
    NO!!!! Do not force anything. If you have to sing lighter then that is fine, but do not force anything. Forcing will cause you all kinds of pain and grief in the future.

    You do need to articulate notes, this is part of the technique of learning to sing. It takes time and experimentation.
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  • andrew_walkerandrew_walker Member Posts: 32
    MR @HuduVudu what to do?? i feel like everything will just come out from my throat, i cant control anything, it feels like a long time bad habit, what to do to eliminate the bad habit?
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  • HuduVuduHuduVudu 2.0 PRO Posts: 1,818
    Andrew you need to practice ... A LOT!!!!! Use the video I posted. You can not think your way into better singing. You have to sing and you have to do it wrong and you have to try to understand what you are doing wrong. If you just throw up your hands and give up you will never be better. Use the information on Ken's YouTube channel. Watch the videos and practice EVERY DAY. All of the singers that you think are good I guarantee practice many many hours a day. Get started now with your practice routine, build it and shape it. In time you will start to hear things and understand things in your voice that will lead you to make changes. The new changes will then lead to new understandings etc ...

    "The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step." - Lao Tzu
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  • andrew_walkerandrew_walker Member Posts: 32
    mr @HuduVudu , okie many thanks
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