A4 - falsetto only

Wildmanofthewoods · October 2019

I cannot sing A4 without going into falsetto - which i dont like the sound of. Has anyone managed to turn A4 into a strong usuable note?

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doc_ramadani · October 2019

Hi @Wildmanofthewoods,

Hampton (Blondie) is right. There are a lot of options on A4. If your question refers to range I can tell you that a lot of male students can hit an A4 in full voice after a few weeks on the course with ease. When I started the highest note I could sing was a F#4. Now I can use C5 / D5 in songs. Doing scales I reach a Eb5 / E5. You should consider to get the course. It is awesome.

Doc

Diego · October 2019

Yes. As doc said many here can reach an A4 by now. Just requires practice.

At this point, I can do a B4 and probably C5 in chest, and with falsetto up to a usable F6.

The course can get you way past what you even think possible right now. It's really informative, and will help you grow in many aspects of your singing Journey.

Wildmanofthewoods · October 2019

"I can tell you that a lot of male students can hit an A4 in full voice after a few weeks on the course with ease." what !! ok that sounds unbelievable (in a good way

) has anyone uploaded a before and after comparison ???

doc_ramadani · October 2019

Sure, this mate demoed his singing after 1 (!!!) year on KTVA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROuosxzuKAs

doc_ramadani · October 2019

And you will find a lot of actual student demos in this public category:

https://forum.kentamplinvocalacademy.com/categories/vocal-demonstrations

To make it easier to have an overlook what is happening in the forums:

When you enter the forums the normal way you will see the "category view!. You can see all the categories with the last 5 discussions that were active in this category. This can sometimes be a bit confusing because you can not see what is happening in the different categories on the first look. Many students, including myself, prefer the "discussions view". In the the "discussions view" you can see the last discussion regardless in which category they have been posted. If you look at the top line of your browsers window yon can read "Ken Tamplin Vocal Academy Singers Forum" (or if you are on a mobile device "KTVA Singers Forum). Next to it it says "Categories" - "Discussions" - "Activity" - ... Click on "Discussions" and you are in the "discussions view". For me, this view is easier because I can see all the latest things that happened in the forums.

Doc

Wildmanofthewoods · October 2019

Thanks for the before and after comparison , i dont recognise the 2nd song, I know the first one was under the bridge

RoddyB · October 2019

@doc_ramadani Hi mate. I am unsure how the references to A4 and C5 etc work. I do know what you are refering to, however i dont understand how you get C5 as the description of it.

Is there somewhere on these forums that describes how that works?

doc_ramadani · October 2019

Hi @RoddyB,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octave

Hope that helps,

Doc

RoddyB · October 2019

Sweet TY

And here it is for guitar. Which it how i would reference it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_tunings

So piano C5 is high E string 8th fret if you use the guitar. Excellent.

Wildmanofthewoods · December 5

Well its 2025 and im still stuck , so i am having huge problems with Ken's exercises - for me the biggest problem is the "lowered tongue at the base of the jaw" instruction - Ken specfically mentions this at (1 min 40sec) during the AH Vowel Exercise 1 in volume 2 . For me this is impossible - if I want to hit the higher notes my tongue HAS TO RISE. He also says monitor tension - but Kens instructions are causing the tensio for me - especially the lowered tongue. Im really frustrated with all this - I put the effort in 1 hour daily.

Terence · December 6

Wildmanofthewoods said:
Well its 2025 and im still stuck , so i am having huge problems with Ken's exercises - for me the biggest problem is the "lowered tongue at the base of the jaw" instruction - Ken specfically mentions this at (1 min 40sec) during the AH Vowel Exercise 1 in volume 2 . For me this is impossible - if I want to hit the higher notes my tongue HAS TO RISE. He also says monitor tension - but Kens instructions are causing the tensio for me - especially the lowered tongue. Im really frustrated with all this - I put the effort in 1 hour daily.

It sounds like you've gotten into a battle with your tongue trying to keep it down. The battle, itself, is causing the problem, IMO. The goal is to get to the point where the tongue is free to do whatever you need to do with it to form the right shape in your mouth to form whatever vowel you're singing. It doesn't have to permanently remain flat while you sing a full song. Keep in mind Ken's instruction while you move on letting the tongue do what comes naturally. You can then come back to the same video and make sure you throat is open while you sing through the exercise.

As for singing the A4 in the subject of this thread it came in stages for me. First falsetto, then thickened falsetto, then thickened head voice, then full head voice. Finally, after getting warmed up, a sound on the A4 that sounds like just full voice but is actually and very strengthened form of Head voice which I'm using in that way starting around the F#4 and G4 and upwards. By the time you get to that stage it's really just your voice. We talk sometimes about "pulling chest" up there but it's really just the strengthening of the arytenoid muscles so they can be deployed through the segundo passagio and beyond.

I looked for the course video you described and can't find it. I remember it but wanted to review my memory. Please provide the link if you can.

Wildmanofthewoods · December 11

Thanks for your reply Terence - the audio workout is Volume 2 Part 1 - Audio Workouts - AH Vowel Exercise 1 @ 1min 40 secs

I feel like I have put huge amount of effort into the workouts but the skill of hitting A4 (especially on 'EE' vowel) in a full chest belt voice is completely out of reach for me

A4 - falsetto only

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