Complications In Your Mind
nathan_klawender Member Posts: 5
My name is Nate and I'm pretty new to singing. As of May 2019, I have finished my first song and I wanted to get feedback on my singing or just the song in general.
sorry for not answering earlier to your post. But I still wanted to say well done, that's a very beautiful song! And the singing is also great, it sounds very at ease and refreshing. Maybe sometimes you could pronounce some of the consonants at the ends of words a little more clearly but overall the pronounciation is good and the words can be understood. I mean only to pay attention to that because sometimes words in the middle of lines can easily get lost a little. But the tone of your voice sounds very pleasant especially as you say you are still new to singing. I also like a lot the chord progressions you play on the piano. For example in the choruses, I like that part where the chords change in a way that you don't hear that often. You know the part where it goes: F - G - C - Bbmaj7, I like that you use the Bb chord here because in a lot of songs you would maybe hear C7 or Am in that place but Bb is a little more unsual and adds a lot of depth to the song. I like chord changes like this a lot. I agree with Sam that there's a little of that Beatles-vibe in there but overall it reminds me more of the solo John Lennon stuff. By the way, which bands and artists do you like? I also have to say it's a good song and a magnificent first song. Keep going!
Yeah, I don't know if this technique has a certain name but it is like when a melody line within the chord progression is going to a particular note and you take out the chord that would normally be played over that note and replace it with another chord that also has that note in it but actually doesn't belong to the same key or mode as the other chords. So maybe it could be called some kind of modal interchange, I don't know if it's the exact correct word here. So here the melody line within the chords that I mean (at the transition from C to Bbmaj7) would be c - b- bflat and usually in a lot of songs the bflat would actually be just an extension of the C chord, so C7. Or another option you would also hear quite a lot in songs would be c - b - a, so a diatonic instead of a chromatic melody line and then going to Am on the a. But the cool thing about the solution in Nate's song is that with the Bbmaj7 chord you actually have both colours in one chord and you can either hear the melody line as c - b - bflat and going to the root note or as c - b - a and going to the major seventh of the underlying chord. That adds some kind of multidimensional feeling to a chord and it's cool because a lot of people would actually hear it one way or the other but would not find the actual chord that is being played. If this is used within chord progressions it also makes the chords transition into each other very smoothly and seamlessly even to a chord outside the key and gives the whole progression a kind of round feel. I can't think of a particular example right now but some of the Beatles' songs also have a similar kind of roundness to their chord progressions.
using Bb in in the key of C is quite common, you can see it as a flattened seventh degree (because the diminished chord which is the normal 7th degree is almost useless, the B is lowered and made into that chord). I think it is a blues thing, originally. it is a cool sound and I also really like it. as with a lot of theory, you can see it in different ways, so I am not disagreeing with the above, there are sometimes lots of different explanations that are all valid
very nice song and you mates are having an interesting discussion.
@doc_ramadani , Thanks Doc hope not to derail this guys thread but it's pretty related I hope, this guy is really good and a first song like that is amazing!
don't worry, everything fine. This is what these forums are for. Exchange and learning from each other. I like this discussion.
@samw2019 Yes, I have also at some point experienced how difficult it can be to try to compose songs in ways that are different to the way you are used to do it. Just keep going, it sounds like you have some cool methods to play around and experiment, I think the most important ability you need to be able to find new interesting song ideas is an openness to try out new ways of thinking and having fun with experimenting. I think in long term it will always be beneficial in some way to occupy your mind with all these things even if there doesn't seem to be any goal to it at first. If you're having trouble with composing rhythm I can give you a method that maybe could be helpful.
@doc_ramadani Thank you. I'm also glad that our long discussion is not perceived as being out of place.
Funny you say that, my guitar instructor says that I kind of sound like Sean Lennon
I would say my top 5 artists would be the Beatles, Queen, Billy Joel, Elvis, and the Beach Boys
I have a few more songs that I’m working on
Thanks for your feedback, it means a lot. I can't read music or know anything about music theory but your conversation is very interesting.
I didn't know much of how Sean Lennon sings but after listening to a song there is some similarity and I can see your instructor's point. He probably meant the smooth tone that also Sean sings a lot in and the overall colour of his voice. What I meant reminded me of John Lennon's solo stuff was how the piano sounds on the recording, the kind of acoustic sound and reverb it has but also some of the chords you play, like in the songs "Love" or "Imagine" for example.
Cool to read your favourite artists.There is definitely a lot of good music by these ones and they're also great artists for songwriters. I think we all will look forward to hear some more songs of you as soon as you have finished some of them!
And thanks for sharing! @nathan_klawender I think you already got some great feedback etc.
I have had a guitar instructor but not piano. I do enjoy the piano more.
What can I say - wow wow wow - I loved this - this is brilliant.
Human Robot xxx