help my singing.
Amali Member Posts: 17
edited August 2021 in GENERAL SINGING - Ken Tamplin Vocal Academy Forum
Hi big fan of ken tamplin, So i have gotten to the point to where i’ve expanded my chest voice almost to the point to where i’m in sort of a mixed voice at really high notes. how do I know when to move on to start using my head voice? i remember ken saying something like you could potentially lose notes on your chest register if you use head voice too soon. so when do i know i’m ready? Should I try to expand my chest voice lower before I start using head voice? because so far i’ve only expanded my chest really high. please someone help.
although i am sitting in my car in the video so i don’t have as much abdominal strength, usually the highest note i can hit is a A#4 but the highest clean and comfortable note is a G#4. My lowest note is C2, which is where my vocal fry is. I would say i’m a tenor maybe a high tenor. Am I good to start training my head voice? or should i expand my chest further. and if so should I expand it lower or higher ?
i would like to hear what @bentk thinks about this. do you think that @thedude838' is ready to move into head voice exercises, regarding the atrophy issue? i am not sure how to know for sure, and thought you would be able to help. thanks!
The difference with bridging exercises and exclusive head voice exercises is the purpose of them. Bridging is all about a smooth passagio and trying to bridge as late as possible in the scale. This sets you up for a strong mixed voice down the track.
After many months or possibly a year or 2 then you start on exclusive head voice exercises. This will be more about bringing your headvoice way down into your chest register, since with your bridging you are likely already bring it very high. If you don't have a good chest foundation and train headvoice down low too soon, you will have a tendency to default to head voice early instead of bringing your chest voice up during chest exercises. This wide crossover of chest and head is what sets up mixed voice.
So you are correct with the bridging, Ken teaches this in his course, and proceed with caution training headvoice too soon if you are still trying to grow your chest.
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I have seen that video before and what this person doesn't understand about the term atrophy is that Ken is talking about the ability to bring your chest voice higher. The E4 is a natural bridging point for guys, if you always default to head voice at that point, guess what? You lose the ability to take your chest vice any higher unless you keep that part of your voice strong. What you dont train you lose or never get. If you train to bench 100kg but stop your max rep at 70kg, how do you achieve your goal? If you dont train to keep your full range up above a D5, you lose ability to access it.
As I said in the above post you train stretching chest voice separately and bridging from chest to head as late as possible in the scale. Both of these will make your full daily workout. Your voice has a memory and will take the easiest path when it can. If you dont keep a strong chest voice, you will default to a head or mix in songs that require full belts. This is the atrophy Ken refers to, the muscles lose the memory and ability to do what it needs to.