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Could not get any sleep this night.
Yesterday my brother (in-law) had a surgery because of very bad cancer, which they found last week. But the surgery did not have the result we all hoped for :(
So a lot of things going on in my mind and I tried to find some inner peace and distraction in music and ... inspired by some of you... I opened a channel on youtube and started creating some videos for my cover songs. And it seems thats easier for you to open up and listen to youtube here.

I justed wanted a nice "background" for the cover song, which I "dedicated" to him. Well, indeed he is like a brother.. for 40 years now, since I was a 5 year old child. I keep on praying and won´t give up hope <3



Did not really practice this one... did it after 2x trying.
Unfortunately... again.. I am not really satisfied... and I think you can hear it in the end that I am thinking of: what can I do better to make it sound more varied? :)
I really increased my range and I am happy about that but I lost my "old warmer voice" on the way... :(
Recognized that also with an Adele song which I recorded...

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  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    shining said:


    Recognized that also with an Adele song which I recorded...

    And here is the Adele cover.



    Well.. I am not sure if you can see this? Because youtube says its blocked in some countries... though I did settings for unlisted :(
  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    @shining Oh god, I'm so sorry to hear that. :( I wish you all the strength in this uneasy time. I really can't speak from experience, but I understand this heavy weight when someone close is sick and you can't even help them...

    On your singing: I don't think it's true you lost anything. I think you're just not used to this "new you". I had this experience: when my voice first started growing, it seemed unusual and I felt like I'm losing something and it's not my voice anymore. Now, looking back, I realize I didn't lose anything but gained much.

    Your voice sounds incredible in this cover, very soft and gentle and emotional, so don't beat yourself up. And I think your emotions were expressed well in this song. True art often comes from strong feelings.
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    Thank you so much for your words and feedback! Hm well.. yes it seems like I need to get used to the "new me". And maybe its a bit like "when you have straight hair you want curly hair... and the other way round".
    Maybe its also unfamiliar to me because not beeing used to sing that high... I still have to find the right pitch, while struggeling a bit too low or too high because I did not even expect to reach any of these notes *lol
  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    @shining Yes, that's possible for sure. Just keep at it, you'll find your perfect voice eventually.
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    Again.. couldn´t sleep *lol
    So I created a new video, with a song I recorded a few days ago ... this time its "Never ending story" from Limahl.
    I was not able to sing this song a few weeks ago.. maybe only in quiet thin headvoice.



    If you are ever bored of the "ee"-scale.. try this song instead. It has a looooot of eeeeeeehs :D

  • WigsWigs Moderator, 2.0 PRO Posts: 2,358
    I am sorry to hear about the complications your brother had. Its very sad to see someone you love in pain.

    To discuss your singing, I think its twofold what you are experiencing. Your voice is growing, and you aren't really familiar with the song. Getting used to 2 new things at once means you are concentrating more on what you are doing rather than letting the music flow from within from having good control of your instrument and good knowledge of the song.

    Still they were both beautiful renditions because of who and why you sing them to :smile:
  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    @shining I just realized your voice is so totally 80's. :) I would love to see more oldies from you from that era. And yeah, you picked up quite some range.
  • VocalityVocality 2.0 PRO Posts: 1,289
    @shining

    3 really nice covers, found 1st very emotional very sorry to hear about your Brother in law, I have been through this with both my parents having cancer and through it all and always clinged to hope that something would change.

    Your voice is well suited to these songs beautiful tone, on the adele song was really good although at the beginning slightly froggy just what heard but that got better the further you progressed into the song. Really good though interested on how you will sound in say 6 months.

    Nice Job on all three.

    Vocality <3
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    Thank you for your Feedback <3

    @coffeecrank Hmm.. interesting to hear that. Maybe than that is why I have problems to sound good on modern songs *lol Well.. as a child / teenager I sang the whole day to these songs :lol: I love music of 80s (my childhood) and 90s... but also Swing, or 60s and 70s (thats what my parents heard). So yes, I always listen to and sing a lot of this old stuff. And maybe you are right, that it has influenced me somehow with my voice.

    @Vocality Yes, you are right. I sound froggy... but most of all nasal in the high notes :D And yes, thats why I try to records this stuff so I can come back in a few weeks, months or years and compare :)
  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    @shining It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. :D
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    “When you get to the end of your rope... Tie a knot and swing!” :lol:

    So this is one of my alltime favorite swing songs:

  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    edited April 9
    shining said:

    shining said:


    Recognized that also with an Adele song which I recorded...

    And here is the Adele cover.



    Well.. I am not sure if you can see this? Because youtube says its blocked in some countries... though I did settings for unlisted :(

    Lol.. just realised that I named this song as one of my goal songs on the 4h of january here in the forum:
    https://forum.kentamplinvocalacademy.com/discussion/comment/68746/#

    I was looking for this post, because I thought that I mentioned "Hopelessly devoted to you" by Olivia Newton-John...
    I didn´t *lol.. but it is :D and today I did it *yeeeah
    Okay again not perfect because I did not practice it before this recording.. just wanted to try... but it came with such an ease that I was totally surprised <3

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/vpst9fdvnf820i4/hopelessly_devoted.m4a?dl=0

    Its funny listening to it.. in the first refrain I was not confident to make this song.. so I failed .. but after that on the second one I knew I can make it and even got higher :smiley: I had to think of Ken saying: You won´t hit the note if you are afraid of it :lol:

    So.. two of my goal songs within a few weeks.. when I started KTVA I thought it would take me yeaaaaaaaaars

  • VocalityVocality 2.0 PRO Posts: 1,289
    @shining

    Some nice renditions, but especially liked the Adele cover seamed to suit your voice very well and all I can say you have been really busy working on alot of songs really nice work. enjoyed them all.

    Vocality
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    Thank you <3

    Well yes, a lot of things are going on at the moment in life. Singing is the best way for me to reduce all negative energy and thoughts. So you won´t get rid of me *lol and there is no one else I can show it to :p
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265




    Tonight these two... in loving memory of my dog. She died 6 months ago today. I hope this deep pain will stop one day. I know this might sound "funny" to some people.. but I don´t care. For me she was (and still is) my whole world.
  • Shine on <3 So nice that singing is the best way for you to reduce all negative energy and thoughts. Lucky you ;-) Several things that sounds interesting about you Shining :-) I am thinking.. since it helps you.... could you direct your energy and sing through the course even more? Maybe in these times you could do it slowly? Imagine what nice songs will come out even better from your mouth then. What impression would you like to leave with your song? I know I had to do many thing over... and over, and over. And I still haven´t got it right LOL. Thanks so much for sharing Shining, hope things might be brighter up ahead. Take care and good luck now :-)
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    edited April 12

    I am thinking.. since it helps you.... could you direct your energy and sing through the course even more?

    Have to admit, that the last 3-4 weeks I am not able to practice... I do it maybe 1-2 times a week instead of every day before corona. I just can´t find energy for it..
    the concentration for standing there and doing scales for over an hour? I can´t.
    Hope this will change soon and I can keep on practicing.
    I only feel the need to sing this or that song.. and to sing together with others on smule.
    And I would not be able to sing most of the song without the ktva course.. so I really hope that I can continue.

    Oh and if anybody wonders if music can really help.. there are several studies about the impact of music to people with depression or just to reduce stress. Here is one example of an interesting article about that:
    https://www.apa.org/monitor/2013/11/music

    And I do that as long as I can remember. When I was a little child I always hide in my room or anywhere and sang, when I had to struggle with any problem.
  • Take care Shining :-) Remember one can not do more than what one can do ;-) And that will have to be good enough for now... <3
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    edited April 15




    Today was a good day :) Felt a lot of power
    And I started with volume 2 today :#
  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    @shining I'm not familiar with the second song, but Brian Adams came out really good. You have that same type of voice actually, at least emotion-wise.
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    edited April 15
    You don´t know the movie "the last unicorn" ? :open_mouth:

    The most beautiful movie and magic of my childhood <3

  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    @shining Oh no, seems like I missed it. It's possible they didn't even buy rights for this in Russia. Seems like a cool cartoon.
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265


    So here is one of my favorite Aerosmith Songs which I tried to sing and practiced the last week. Its funny that there are a few Aerosmith Covers posted this week from different people *lol

    This song was really hard for me and unfortunately I am still not able to sing it right on pitch :( To me it sounds like allways just below the correct pitch. Or what do you think? Its also hard to keep support ... a lot of breath is needed.
  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    @shining I didn't hear off-pitch issues. I think you might be mistaking this for lack of chest power. This is pretty much what's missing here. Long notes with lots of chest power. Solid performance nonetheless.
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    edited April 21
    Hmmm okay.. I did not pull to much because to me it sounded way to hard then.. I wanted to copy the "soft/fragile sound" of his voice (which I think to hear)
    Or maybe its the distortion which is missing in my voice when I sing it with more power. And some of the notes are yet still too high for me :(
    Ok.. will try it again in a few months *lol
  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    Yeah, chest/distortion. I wouldn't call Steven Tyler fragile, haha. But I think distortion might appear like this a little bit. His voice is super gritty.
  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    And he has an unfair advantage in the shape of his gigantic mouth. :D (Sorry, I just had to say it.)
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265

    I wouldn't call Steven Tyler fragile, haha.

    Hmm.. yes maybe I translated it with the wrong word :lol:
    I meant "verletzt/zerbrechlich" in german... maybe someone can help.

  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265


    This time a "duet"... well, I only do some backgrounds...
    I fell in love with his voice <3
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265


    Practiced this one yesterday... because the last 2 days I suddenly had problems with my voice cracking while bridging and so I wanted to sing a song I know quite well... just to test it out.
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    We were talking about "German songs" in another thread a few days ago.

    These are two covers of typical german so called "Schlager". Half germans hate it... the other half loves it :lol:

    This one is a version (piano only and slower) of one of the most successul Schlager Song from famous "Helene Fischer". (Again the reminder: a lot of people hate this song .... but everyone knows it... its an earwig *lol )



    This one is another example of Schlager from a winner from a german "singing contest":



    Well.. I love Schlager when I am out on a party... or just for singing. I grew up with such music because my parents always listenend to it.
    But I would never ever buy such music :lol:
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    edited May 6
    If someone would like to hear some more german songs...

    Here are two which I sang as a duett. Both are very sad and quiet songs...

    This one is from maybe most famous german Artist Herberg Grönemeyer. He wrote this song for his wife, after she died because of cancer :(

    https://www.smule.com/recording/herbert-grönemeyer-der-weg-piano/490478239_3532030193

    This song is not really german.. we tried to sing it with austrian dialect. Because the original is from Andreas Gabalier, an Austrian Singer.
    He wrote this song after his father and sister commited suicide within a very short time....

    https://www.smule.com/recording/andreas-gabalier-amoi-seg-ma-uns-wieder-original/490478239_3532009867
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265

    @shining You'll be fine, your voice will still be yours. Mine didn't really change, you can tell from my old recordings. All that's changed was confidence, vibrato, power etc. Unlike surgery, this is not removing any part of your voice, just opening its full potential. :)

    Dont want to hijack YOUR demo thread... sorry for that :) So I moved this over here.
    Yes you are definetly right... confidence and power have grown tremendous :open_mouth:

    And 2 days ago I quit smoking (I am... WAS a reaaal heavy smoker) *yeaaah
    Yesterday I sang just for fun without any expectations together with a good friend of mine (she took some classic "opera" singing lessons years ago)...
    She came up with this song.
    And suddenly I realized that I was able to hit the high notes in "My heart will go on" ( 3:25 - 3:48)
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/ieh1eq1c7zvoo7o/my-heart-will-go-on-duett.m4a?dl=0

    After 24 hours without smoking my throat already felt sooo much better.
    This is a good motivation for my singing but also for not smoking :lol:
    Though people around me are quite irritated, because everyone who knows me also knows, that I would never quit for any reason. Well... now I found a good one :)
  • WigsWigs Moderator, 2.0 PRO Posts: 2,358
    I used to smoke up to 30 a day in my younger years. I quit cold turkey same as my dad. I must say ( you might not want to hear this) I noticed zero difference in my overall health, taste and sense of smell but I only smoked for about 8 years. I however am all the more richer now that I spend my money on other hobbies 😁 it helped me to think of it as not quitting, I am just no longer a smoker. Every day for the first 2 weeks (the hardest) I told my self I won't have one today. I didn't change anything else, still went to bars, still had morning coffee, still going out with people that smoked, the only change was that I stopped.

    Good on you to change your self for a healthier you!
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    Well, I started on exactly my 16. birthday... and I am 44 now.. Do the math :lol:
    Smoking 1 package of tobacco in 2 days.. which is about 50 small cigarettes a day -.-
    I always had a scratchy feeling in my throat when singing. Needed to make breaks because of mucus in my throat.
    When I went to the ENT 2 months ago because of my ear problem, I asked him to take a look.. so he did and said all my throat, larynx and vocal chords are covered with thick sticky mucus. The only way to get rid of it was quit smoking.
    And like I said before, after 24 hours my throat already felt way better. This scratchy feeling was way better.. not to say nearly gone. I expected this maybe in a few weeks.
  • sjonrokz4usjonrokz4u 2.0 PRO Posts: 377
    Congrats girl!!! Like wigs I quit a long time ago from smoking about 30 a day. I hope you don’t mind a little encouragement. Take the pressure off yourself and think of it as stopping not quitting. Quitting is a high bar to set and is easily failed. If you look at it like stopping there’s not so much pressure on you and if you fail get back up on the horse the next day and start over. Remember it’s a bunch of little battles every day. Kinda like a hockey game with battles for the puck. You may win them all or you may lose some just remember if you lose a battle get right back in there and dig in and try to win the next one. Eventually you’ll win the game!!! For me unlike wigs I did start noticing differences in taste smell and wind etc. go get em girl!!! Nice job!!!
  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    edited May 10
    Good for you, @shining! I never took up smoking but occasionally (once a year maybe) have some hookah, haha. Your voice sounds incredible in that last cover. I said it already and I'll say it again, I see really great potential there, just don't stop. :)
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    Thank you so much for your words! @sjonrokz4u
    Well yes, maybe I should stay "stopped". Didn´t really thought about that.
    The "battle" is okay for the moment. BUT I (have to) use nicotine gums in the beginning... without them I guess I would be going through the roof. Worst thing at the moment is my sense of smell *lol Spend the whole day with washing the curtains and everything that has the smell of smoke.

    Lucky you @coffeecrank
    And wow, thank you so much for this compliment. Means a lot to me to hear this from you! :o
    <3
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    edited May 13
    Some of you were talking about songs with just piano in background. That reminded me of this song.
    I was 11/12 years old when it came out (1986) and I loooooved it. I even think this is the first song I remember me staying with the lyrics sheet in my hand and trying to pretend to be a singer :D

    The song is quite "easy".. has a very comfortable range.
    But I realized that its nethertheless quite tough to sing because of all its feelings

  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    edited May 13
    @shining Beautifully done. Yeah, such songs are really tough. Not going off pitch is only half of it, then you need to be fully invested. I noticed I oftentimes lose support by focusing too much on emotions, it's a tricky matter.
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    Yes ... and I also have problems with my mic. When singing "softer vocals" in songs I always have to even concentrate more on the distance to the mic.. and not singing to low.. and not to quiet :neutral: I don´t know, I guess I have wrong settings for it or I should change the mic.
  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    @shining You could get a cheap pre-amp, I'm using one to regulate the amount of volume aka gain.
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    Well.. I do all recordings with this iRig Pre HD and my smartphone. It has gain settings. Also Volume.. but I think the volume is only for the headphones.
    Mic is the Rode nt-1a.
    Bought a focusrite to try it on PC.
    But unlike you I was too lazy yet to try to get smule running on my desktop device *lol
    I also have a cheap Shure SM 58 ... but did not really liked the sound of it. (But I only tried it once yet)


  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    Oh man, I keep my Shure SM58 in the box now, that mic does not complement my voice...
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    Now you made me curious and I tried it again :)

    So.. I recorded this yesterday with the rode nt-1a
    https://www.smule.com/recording/demi-lovato-anyone/2244233324_3552202072
    And its driving me nuts because when I am singing high (and louder), it always kinda makes the voice sound strange. It also irritates me while singing because its sounds weird through my headphones. I have to step away over 1m from the mic ... Also hat this problem when singing "Into the unknown".

    Now I just recorded this with the Shure SM58
    https://www.smule.com/recording/demi-lovato-anyone/2244233324_3553964593
    I don´t like the lower parts ... but its a lot better in the higher notes and I don´t have to step back and can sing full right into it.

    Best comparison for higher notes is 1:28 to 1:43

    Please don´t judge the singing.. just the mics :lol:
    I still fail the end *lol So its totally different in both and only did the other recording to compare both mics.

    Hmmm... seems like I need another mic????

  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    Now changed several settings... ehem.. sometimes the problem is not the hardware but the person using it :lol:
    So now again with the Rode:
    https://www.smule.com/recording/demi-lovato-anyone/2244233324_3554037479

    The sound in the higher notes is better/clearer now, isn´t it?
  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    I think in general Shure creates very dark sound, seems the same issue for you as it was for me. Rode does make the sound MUCH brighter on lower notes from what I'm hearing, and it's the same with Sennheiser, I have really good experience with e835S. If you have a chance, you can go to a store to test it out. But I think your Rode is pretty good. What you might be experiencing is distortion that happens when the mic is "too loud". I have that if I try recording at 100% volume, that's why I tune the mic down and then apply effects in Audacity such as compression/normalization.
  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    The last one seems good, yeah.
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    Thank you for listening and helping me <3
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    Today... a little bit of Bowie B)<3

    (Still have to find out the settings ... when I sing low there is a lot of "bass" )





  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    @shining Nice Bowie covers! How about doing "Lady Grinning Soul"?
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    Well.. there are sooo many great Bowie Songs on my list :lol:
    What about you doing a cover of it?
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    You Are the Reason from Calum Scott

    I love this song so much...



    and if you would like to laugh a bit.. this is me 5 month ago (half of the song)
    https://www.smule.com/recording/calum-scott-you-are-the-reason/1581931034_3301133764
  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    @shining Your voice was pretty good, but you picked up so much chest power/vibrato etc. :)
  • VocalityVocality 2.0 PRO Posts: 1,289
    @Shining Your sound is beginning to open up now great progress like the rendition very much!!!

    :) Vocality
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    edited May 23
    Thank you for your feedback @Vocality
    And I still feel like a boy who has to deal with the changing of voice. :innocent:


    And @coffeecrank
    Indeed.. but now I have to work on the perseverance :D
  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    @shining Perseverance is what I'm lacking these days, haha. But keep going, definitely worth it.
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    edited June 4
    Titanium from David Guetta in a slow Piano Version
    This one is hard... and I am still off pitch sometimes.. but never was so close to it *yeah*
    I love these lyrics soooo much ...



  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    @shining Nice going so high! Still lacking some strength that high, but really great improvement in range. :)
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    Yeah... but thats what makes this song and especially this version so tough: The long phrases with its slow ups and downs ... from soft to powerful. Its really hard not to run out of oxygen :D
    The longest one I could do is from 3:16 to 3:32 without taking a breath *lol

    I wonder how many recordings they did for the studio version of the original song . They also work with a lot of echos there.
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    I started this thread because of my brother-in-law...
    Now he has lost his fight .... so this one is dedicated to him and my sister.
    They lived together for 40 years.
    #FuckCancer

  • sjonrokz4usjonrokz4u 2.0 PRO Posts: 377
    Sorry for your loss
  • coffeecrankcoffeecrank 2.0 PRO Posts: 763
    @shining So sorry to hear that. Yeah, fuck cancer.
  • VocalityVocality 2.0 PRO Posts: 1,289
    @shining

    Really sorry for your loss my thoughts go out to you and your family at this difficult time.
  • shiningshining 2.0 PRO Posts: 265
    Thank you all for you words!

    And yes... life is what happens while you have other plans.

    So live you life and dreams now <3

  • WigsWigs Moderator, 2.0 PRO Posts: 2,358
    Take your time to heal, the waves will crash every day, some small, others during a storm. 💐
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