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Re: Maybe we need to go back.
I totally get what you mean. It’s wild how the vocal coaching scene has changed, right? It feels like nowadays, there’s more focus on putting others down than actually supporting each other, which can be discouraging. I’ve been into music for a while and have always tried to stay focused on my own growth, even though it’s easy to get caught up in comparing myself to others. Like you, I believe patience and respect go a long way in improving, whether you’re working on your pitch or expanding your range. I think sticking to what feels right for you, like KTVA, is the best way to avoid all the drama and just keep improving at your own pace.
paulnian
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Re: Uncomfortable voice placement
hi, i seen this hasn't been answered in a good while, maybe nobody else recognized the feeling. i don't, but i work indoors and talk a lot at work, so cannot relate myself. i guess you could do some lip rolls/scales during the day to prevent this? or, come home and do a warmup to release the voice? have you tried this?
Klaus_T
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Re: Can I improve? (Help)
first of all, if there is any inflammation on or near your cords, you must be careful, so this is the medical disclaimer you knew was gonna come: if you are unsure if there is an inflammation there, check with an ENT. otherwise, there will be a risk of long-term damage.
having said that: you sound like a lot of people when they start, well if you already knew how to sing well, you would not have bought the course, right? you don't sound especially bad or anything, just not like a trained singer. well, that is because you aren't (yet) but you can and will be. 17 is very young, you have so much time to become amazing.
all of the points you are worried about are addressed in the course (tone, pitch, control, versatility etc.). just start the course properly, do it for a few months, and see the results. it will take a good few years to become a good singer, but there will be all these milestones before you are there, and progress will happen in short intervals. if you stick with it, you will sound better after 1 month, trust me.
make sure you do the course right by submitting your exercises for feedback regularly, ask as much as you want to know on this forum, and become a great singer with us...
look on youtube, Ken has a video "how to get rid of mucus" (or sometthing like that) and follow that advice, too. also, make sure to eat healthy stuff. from what you say it sounds like you might have some kind of allergy (seasonal/food/dust) maybe?
having said that: you sound like a lot of people when they start, well if you already knew how to sing well, you would not have bought the course, right? you don't sound especially bad or anything, just not like a trained singer. well, that is because you aren't (yet) but you can and will be. 17 is very young, you have so much time to become amazing.
all of the points you are worried about are addressed in the course (tone, pitch, control, versatility etc.). just start the course properly, do it for a few months, and see the results. it will take a good few years to become a good singer, but there will be all these milestones before you are there, and progress will happen in short intervals. if you stick with it, you will sound better after 1 month, trust me.
make sure you do the course right by submitting your exercises for feedback regularly, ask as much as you want to know on this forum, and become a great singer with us...
look on youtube, Ken has a video "how to get rid of mucus" (or sometthing like that) and follow that advice, too. also, make sure to eat healthy stuff. from what you say it sounds like you might have some kind of allergy (seasonal/food/dust) maybe?
Klaus_T
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Re: Being a frontman/frontwoman - what does it take to be a good one?
Thanks Ragnar and Voodoo
I like R's comment about conversation. I agree but sometimes it's like you do all the talking - or maybe I need to be a better listener haha! It's a solid point though - mates of mine play surf garage punk, not particularly well, but they look and act the part. Their crowd is of course lots of bopping young girls and scensters. Works well for them because venues love their young drinking crowds and they get lots of gigs. They also love to party, which makes them good fun for local promoters and other bands that do the same - which also amounts to more gigs and the occasional tour. Never underestimate the power of sticking around for a few beers after your set!
I play guitar and sing each song. I'm also the default band leader and guide the band through most of the changes since foldback is not always the best at the venues we play. It's hard to do since you're mostly facing away from the band singing but occasionally have to shoot a glance here or there to bring things together when someone misses a cue or to wrap a song. Makes it hard to really let go and connect with an audience - but it's possible and I've seen it done really well.
Voodoo - I definitely understand your comment but could you give an example of what you do to achieve that connection and where/how you try to lead them?
I think intensity plays a part. When I pull faces to sing notes or fling my guitar around we get a lot of hoots from the crowd. I guess it conveys that you're singing or playing your ass off. Same when our drummer gets a chance to let it off the chain - people go mental. Perhaps it really just boils down to the kind of energy you inject into your performance. If you're having fun and letting hell loose then the audience feeds of that and reciprocates - which perhaps ties back to R's point about performance as conversation.
I like R's comment about conversation. I agree but sometimes it's like you do all the talking - or maybe I need to be a better listener haha! It's a solid point though - mates of mine play surf garage punk, not particularly well, but they look and act the part. Their crowd is of course lots of bopping young girls and scensters. Works well for them because venues love their young drinking crowds and they get lots of gigs. They also love to party, which makes them good fun for local promoters and other bands that do the same - which also amounts to more gigs and the occasional tour. Never underestimate the power of sticking around for a few beers after your set!
I play guitar and sing each song. I'm also the default band leader and guide the band through most of the changes since foldback is not always the best at the venues we play. It's hard to do since you're mostly facing away from the band singing but occasionally have to shoot a glance here or there to bring things together when someone misses a cue or to wrap a song. Makes it hard to really let go and connect with an audience - but it's possible and I've seen it done really well.
Voodoo - I definitely understand your comment but could you give an example of what you do to achieve that connection and where/how you try to lead them?
I think intensity plays a part. When I pull faces to sing notes or fling my guitar around we get a lot of hoots from the crowd. I guess it conveys that you're singing or playing your ass off. Same when our drummer gets a chance to let it off the chain - people go mental. Perhaps it really just boils down to the kind of energy you inject into your performance. If you're having fun and letting hell loose then the audience feeds of that and reciprocates - which perhaps ties back to R's point about performance as conversation.
micj
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My own experience
1. If you do any vocal technique for the first time it will feel terribly wrong. How ever this does not mean you doing it wrong. Just do not force your self.
2. None except your self is acountable for your vocal health. A vocal coach Provides guidance but if you are impatient if you are just Parotting him and if you are not listening to your body at all it is 100% your own fault.
3. Looking good can hinder you from sounding good. (Being a beatboxer and playing the persian Ney I know what I am talking about)
4. There are a lot misconception about toungeplacement. Because many do not understand which roles the tounge plays in Tone Produktion. Like choosing the cavety, controlling overtones.
5. Nothing helps more than recording your self and watching back.
6. Improvement never is linear. There will be series where you have less improvement and yes it is Frustrating. Sometimes you will feel like you got even worse. How ever that's normal. Ober time you still achieve big improvement.
2. None except your self is acountable for your vocal health. A vocal coach Provides guidance but if you are impatient if you are just Parotting him and if you are not listening to your body at all it is 100% your own fault.
3. Looking good can hinder you from sounding good. (Being a beatboxer and playing the persian Ney I know what I am talking about)
4. There are a lot misconception about toungeplacement. Because many do not understand which roles the tounge plays in Tone Produktion. Like choosing the cavety, controlling overtones.
5. Nothing helps more than recording your self and watching back.
6. Improvement never is linear. There will be series where you have less improvement and yes it is Frustrating. Sometimes you will feel like you got even worse. How ever that's normal. Ober time you still achieve big improvement.
Jcb
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