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Re: LIGHT THE TORCH - Death of Me Vocal cover
thank you Charlie !
I was willing to do this song and learn it to add an option of dynamics with deeper covered low larynx sounds,
so It was absolutly intentional and it took me almost two years to do it, I ve also took last six months operatic lessons because of these colours.....and I am still working on it as I am working on "normal" rock sounds and colours that Ken is teaching in his course
I was willing to do this song and learn it to add an option of dynamics with deeper covered low larynx sounds,
so It was absolutly intentional and it took me almost two years to do it, I ve also took last six months operatic lessons because of these colours.....and I am still working on it as I am working on "normal" rock sounds and colours that Ken is teaching in his course
Seven2080
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Re: What does Ken mean by "Like pouring oil in the cords"?/Moisture in the cords/vocal rest
The 'oil' is mucus which coats the vocal cords for moisture and protection. It's produced by the glands in the laryngeal mucosa to keep the cords lubricated. Hydration of the vocal cords is crucial for their flexibility and to prevent irritation or damage during phonation. And like anything vibrating up to ~1000 hz, much heat can be generated.
And the water we drink is not available to the mucas glands for 20 or 30 minutes (provided you're not so dehydrated that some other crucial body function needs the water first.)
As to singing the next day after blowing out your voice, I would trust what Ken says but listen closely to the context of his comments.
And the water we drink is not available to the mucas glands for 20 or 30 minutes (provided you're not so dehydrated that some other crucial body function needs the water first.)
As to singing the next day after blowing out your voice, I would trust what Ken says but listen closely to the context of his comments.
Terence
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Re: What does Ken mean by "Like pouring oil in the cords"?/Moisture in the cords/vocal rest
Hi Klaus, thanks a lot for the response.
Ok let's leave the, likely metaphorical, oil aside for a second
I guess I'd reformulate it like this.
You blow your voice,
So, doing a gentle warmup will help the process of the body recovering itself, even after the warmup?
As in
The body will heal itself faster if you do a little gentle warmup, rather than if you just rest.
Maybe with the latter it would take a week, whereas maybe the first one would take 4 days, just to set the example.
I think you already answered saying that a gentle warmup the day after is better.
The oil thing was mentioned randomly by Ken in a webinar recording; my guess is he meant moisture, and I was curious if anyone knew the anatomy of it and how it works; and what it means to us as singers.
The same with saying we don't take days off, it was at a random webinar recording. He said it in a playful tone though.
So I guess that does help me and covers my questions pretty well, thank you.
I'll aim to rest a couple days a week.
Thank you, God bless and keep on rocking.
I actually didn't think my post would get answered at this point, so thanks a lot again
Ok let's leave the, likely metaphorical, oil aside for a second
I guess I'd reformulate it like this.
You blow your voice,
So, doing a gentle warmup will help the process of the body recovering itself, even after the warmup?
As in
The body will heal itself faster if you do a little gentle warmup, rather than if you just rest.
Maybe with the latter it would take a week, whereas maybe the first one would take 4 days, just to set the example.
I think you already answered saying that a gentle warmup the day after is better.
The oil thing was mentioned randomly by Ken in a webinar recording; my guess is he meant moisture, and I was curious if anyone knew the anatomy of it and how it works; and what it means to us as singers.
The same with saying we don't take days off, it was at a random webinar recording. He said it in a playful tone though.
So I guess that does help me and covers my questions pretty well, thank you.
I'll aim to rest a couple days a week.
Thank you, God bless and keep on rocking.
I actually didn't think my post would get answered at this point, so thanks a lot again
Esteban22
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Re: How to sing everyday for hours and also do the KTVA course without losing the voice.
Hi, @Octavio!
You ask some good questions here, and I can see why you want to know these things.
First, let me say that your voice has improved since you started the course. In your "3 months ago" video, your voice is more airy and breathy, not nearly as strong. Your tone has improved.
Yes, you will learn to make your voice last for hours and hours when you have gotten further along in the Ken Tamplin Vocal Academy course... but it takes some time to build some of those skills, and in the meantime, while you are growing your new voice, you need to be careful.
Excessive air and excess air pressure will dry out the vocal cords, and cause your voice to wear out. So the best thing you can do is to try to sing and speak at lower volumes until you have mastered more of the techniques. You are already singing with better cord closure than you used to have, so that is one step in the right direction. Better cord closure reduces the amount of air that passes over your vocal cords, and can dry them out and make you hoarse. But make sure you don't "oversing". We can still sing too loud, and wear on the cords. So just bring the volume down as you are able. That will make your voice last longer, and don't sing "Hard" to get up to your high notes. Just let them come at the same volume you would sing easier notes.
Later, in Volume 3, you will learn the techniques that will help you to be able to cut back the air a lot more, but you need to train for a while to build up to that. You do need to do the workouts every day, if you can, but "save" a little bit of your vocal energy. You can credit your work time vocals towards your workout time, and only do the vocal exercises and workouts to the extent that you don't feel "worn out". Stay a little bit below the threshold of extending your range or volume so that you are just lightly stretching but NEVER straining your voice. That way, you will be just getting yourself into better and better shape, without giving yourself any vocal setbacks. If you overdo your singing by straining, your cords can swell, and that will affect your voice while you recover from that. It's better to stay just under those limitations, and keep moving forward, little-by-little.
Your daily singing from busking will help you to work-in your new techniques, if you don't force or push too hard. You're doing a great job of that already.
Find a balance that works for you of continuing to exercise and do your lessons while surfing just below the threshold of too much singing. As your voice continues to grow, and you learn to remain below any threshold of excess wear on your vocal cords, you will become more and more resilient as a singer. Your voice will become much stronger and resistant to wear, and you will become more knowledgeable about your "safe zone" to remain in with your voice.
A lot of the "loudness" of singing well, or of safe distortion is actually an illusion. You are not really singing as "loud" as you appear to be, and that helps you to keep your voice in fresh condition. Again, these are techniques that come later, after getting the basics of singing well-embedded into muscle-memory.
For now, moderation in your singing volume is advised, to keep you from oversinging. Pacing your songs where you warm up with easier songs, and then spread-out the more difficult songs between easier songs will help you to get through your long days. Monitor your voice, and pay attention to anything that feels like it's scratching or stressing your voice, and stay within safer boundaries until you become better at manuevering through more difficult notes and passages.
You will have to take care of your voice as you go through the building of it. It can be done, but you must proceed responsibly. You will improve AND gain more longevity in your voice.
All the Best!
Bob
You ask some good questions here, and I can see why you want to know these things.
First, let me say that your voice has improved since you started the course. In your "3 months ago" video, your voice is more airy and breathy, not nearly as strong. Your tone has improved.
Yes, you will learn to make your voice last for hours and hours when you have gotten further along in the Ken Tamplin Vocal Academy course... but it takes some time to build some of those skills, and in the meantime, while you are growing your new voice, you need to be careful.
Excessive air and excess air pressure will dry out the vocal cords, and cause your voice to wear out. So the best thing you can do is to try to sing and speak at lower volumes until you have mastered more of the techniques. You are already singing with better cord closure than you used to have, so that is one step in the right direction. Better cord closure reduces the amount of air that passes over your vocal cords, and can dry them out and make you hoarse. But make sure you don't "oversing". We can still sing too loud, and wear on the cords. So just bring the volume down as you are able. That will make your voice last longer, and don't sing "Hard" to get up to your high notes. Just let them come at the same volume you would sing easier notes.
Later, in Volume 3, you will learn the techniques that will help you to be able to cut back the air a lot more, but you need to train for a while to build up to that. You do need to do the workouts every day, if you can, but "save" a little bit of your vocal energy. You can credit your work time vocals towards your workout time, and only do the vocal exercises and workouts to the extent that you don't feel "worn out". Stay a little bit below the threshold of extending your range or volume so that you are just lightly stretching but NEVER straining your voice. That way, you will be just getting yourself into better and better shape, without giving yourself any vocal setbacks. If you overdo your singing by straining, your cords can swell, and that will affect your voice while you recover from that. It's better to stay just under those limitations, and keep moving forward, little-by-little.
Your daily singing from busking will help you to work-in your new techniques, if you don't force or push too hard. You're doing a great job of that already.
Find a balance that works for you of continuing to exercise and do your lessons while surfing just below the threshold of too much singing. As your voice continues to grow, and you learn to remain below any threshold of excess wear on your vocal cords, you will become more and more resilient as a singer. Your voice will become much stronger and resistant to wear, and you will become more knowledgeable about your "safe zone" to remain in with your voice.
A lot of the "loudness" of singing well, or of safe distortion is actually an illusion. You are not really singing as "loud" as you appear to be, and that helps you to keep your voice in fresh condition. Again, these are techniques that come later, after getting the basics of singing well-embedded into muscle-memory.
For now, moderation in your singing volume is advised, to keep you from oversinging. Pacing your songs where you warm up with easier songs, and then spread-out the more difficult songs between easier songs will help you to get through your long days. Monitor your voice, and pay attention to anything that feels like it's scratching or stressing your voice, and stay within safer boundaries until you become better at manuevering through more difficult notes and passages.
You will have to take care of your voice as you go through the building of it. It can be done, but you must proceed responsibly. You will improve AND gain more longevity in your voice.
All the Best!
Bob
highmtn
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